HC#50 Exploring the Future of Digital Interaction with Jacob and Dustin from Afference

Podcast Link: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5CnJRRgYiUEzgyaBkYFFho?si=297e027c958847c6

In this episode of the Haptics Club, we talk with the founders of Afference: Jacob Segil and Dustin Tyler. Afference specializes in the development of The Phantom, a haptic glove designed to deliver feedback with precise finger-level detail through direct interaction with the nervous system. Founded by neural engineering specialists, the company draws upon a wealth of research in neural interfaces to enhance digital interaction experiences.

This interview with Jacob and Dustin will offer a deeper understanding of Afference's technology and its innovative contributions to the field.

About Jacob and Dustin

Jacob Siegel, co-founder and CEO of Afference, brings a wealth of experience to the table, boasting a decade-long journey as a serial entrepreneur and academic researcher specializing in prosthetic limb design and neural interfaces. With a passion for transforming ideas into tangible innovations, Siegel's prior work in medical devices and prosthetic limb componentry serves as the foundation for Afference's groundbreaking haptic interface technology. The Phantom, their flagship development kit, represents a culmination of years of research, promising revolutionary insights into nervous system interfacing. Collaborating closely with Dustin, Siegel underscores the pivotal role of their collective expertise in shaping Afference's trajectory, emphasizing the company's nascent yet promising journey, a mere 18 months in the making.

Dustin Tyler, co-founder and an esteemed neural engineer with a penchant for pushing the boundaries of neurotechnology, brings a unique perspective to the conversation. Drawing from his extensive academic and industry experience, particularly in the realm of prosthetics, Dustin articulates a profound shift in his understanding of haptics. Moving beyond its functional utility, Dustin emphasizes the profound human need for connection, highlighting how haptic feedback serves as the bridge between individuals, devices, and the world at large. Rooted in his firsthand interactions with prosthetic users, Dustin's insights illuminate the transformative potential of haptic technology beyond the realm of prosthetics, extending into virtual and augmented reality realms. As technology continues to redefine human interaction, Dustin and his team are at the forefront, leveraging haptics to counteract isolation and foster genuine connections in an increasingly digitized world.

Unveiling the Future: The Intersection of Neuroscience and Haptics

The integration of neuroscience and technology in the field of haptics is ushering in a new era of sensory interaction, as demonstrated by the innovative work of Jacob and Dustin. Through their development of the Phantom wearable device, they are revolutionizing the way we perceive touch by directly stimulating nerve fascicles, bypassing traditional tactile pathways. Jacob's description of the Phantom's design, with its discreet yet powerful components, highlights the seamless integration of technology into everyday life. Meanwhile, Dustin delves into the intricacies of neural connectivity, emphasizing the potential for haptic technology to become as ubiquitous as other digital interfaces. By tapping into the body's intricate network of sensory pathways, they aim to reduce user friction and seamlessly integrate haptics into daily activities, ultimately enhancing our digital interactions in ways previously unimaginable.

Navigating the Complex Terrain of Haptic Technology

Exploring the landscape of haptic technology reveals a landscape ripe with innovation and obstacles, as highlighted by the insights shared. Technically, a significant hurdle lies in replicating tactile sensations through nerve activation, demanding advanced technology to simulate touch without direct physical contact. While adept at intensity modulation, achieving finer details like high pixel density or precise discrimination between two points remains a challenge. Furthermore, haptic experiences are multifaceted, involving considerations of where and how intensely a sensation is felt, its adaptive nature, and its overall quality. Communicating the value proposition of haptic technology presents a distinct challenge, as its subtle impact is often only truly appreciated in its absence. This underscores the importance of delivering a seamless user experience that effectively conveys the significance of haptic interactions. As the industry endeavors to define use cases and overcome initial user skepticism, minimizing friction and demonstrating the transformative potential of haptics emerge as crucial strategies.

The Evolution of Haptic Experiences

The future of haptic technology appears boundless, poised to revolutionize the digital landscape with immersive experiences akin to those crafted by skilled audio engineers. With the evolution of haptics, we're witnessing the birth of a new realm of sensory interaction, where creators wield an array of tools akin to those of musicians or sound designers. This burgeoning field not only promises novel entertainment avenues in gaming and virtual reality but also extends its reach into healthcare and beyond. As technology progresses, so too does our capacity to bridge the gap between the physical and digital worlds, offering intuitive interactions previously confined to the realms of imagination. Jacob's vision for spatial computing encapsulates this journey, charting a course from the birth of personal computing to the emergence of wearables seamlessly integrated into our daily lives. Through innovative form factors like rings and watches, haptic technology inches closer to mimicking real-world sensations, enriching our digital experiences with a tactile dimension previously unattainable. As we venture deeper into this realm, the promise of haptics lies not in replacing reality but in enhancing it, paving the way for a new era of human-computer interaction.

Beyond the Hype: A Perspective on Everyday Immersion

In the realm of immersive technology development, the horizon of 2024 heralds a promising array of advancements aimed at revolutionizing user experiences. Jacob, one of the visionaries steering this trajectory, articulates a vision centered on accessibility and functionality. With the imminent release of development kits and SDKs tailored for diverse content creators, the focus lies on democratizing creation processes, from gaming to virtual training. The emphasis isn't solely on grandiose innovations but on refining seemingly mundane interactions, like the click of a button or the sensation of tactile feedback. This approach, as elucidated by Dustin, underscores a crucial paradigm shift — prioritizing the refinement of everyday user experiences over lofty, albeit intimidating, aspirations of a fully virtual world. The essence lies in enhancing functionality, seamlessly integrating haptic feedback to bridge the perceptual gap between visual cues and tactile response. It's about that vital 20% improvement that transforms interactions from cumbersome to intuitive, embodying the ethos of "it just works." As the landscape evolves, it's not just about wowing users but about empowering them with experiences that feel inherently natural and immersive, marking a pivotal step towards a future where technology seamlessly integrates into our daily lives.

The future of haptics

In envisioning the future landscape of haptics, the conversation delves into a realm where technology seamlessly integrates with human experience, offering a tantalizing glimpse of what lies ahead. Jacob articulates a vision where the boundaries between the physical and digital worlds blur, allowing for a state of embodiment in virtual spaces. This concept, while reminiscent of science fiction narratives like "Ready Player One" or "Westworld," transcends mere entertainment, promising tangible benefits across various sectors. Jacob's optimism is palpable as he discusses the potential for technology to enhance human interaction and productivity through immersive sensory experiences. His sentiment is echoed by Dustin, who envisions a future where haptics become as ubiquitous as audio, fostering profound connections between individuals regardless of geographical distance. This vision extends beyond mere convenience, offering the tantalizing prospect of expanding human existence beyond the constraints of physical boundaries. As technology advances, the prospect of unbinding humanity from its skin becomes more than a metaphorical concept; it represents a paradigm shift in how we perceive and interact with the world around us. The collective ambition shared by these innovators is not merely to create gadgets or applications but to fundamentally reshape the human experience, ushering in an era where the digital and physical realms converge to enrich our lives in ways yet to be fully imagined.

Learn more about Afference

In conclusion, we extend our sincere gratitude to Jacob and Dustin for sharing their expertise and insights on haptics and their amazing products. If you're interested in delving deeper into haptics with Afference, we encourage you to visit her website.

We want to express our sincere gratitude to Jacob and Dustin for taking the time to share their insights on haptics. Thank you!

Disclaimer: Please note that this blog post has been partially generated by AI and transcribed from an interview. While efforts have been made to ensure accuracy, there may be occasional flaws or missing information in the transcription process. We apologize for any discrepancies and encourage readers to verify details from additional sources or contact the individuals mentioned for precise and up-to-date information.

Bryan Zaaijer

Haptics Club Podcast co-host, Creative Director at SenseGlove

Next
Next

Unveiling The Haptics Club's Top 4 Most Listened-To Episodes of 2023